Charli xcx on ‘Brat’ Summer, Lorde Remix & Changing Culture


“Now I swear this green is just everywhere,” Charli xcx jokes. The British pop star is sitting in a crisp leather-based seat inside a black Mercedes-Benz van, a couple of minutes into the lengthy journey throughout London from her dwelling to Wembley Arena. Tonight, Charli can be making a shock look at her pal, collaborator and soon-to-be tourmate Troye Sivan’s late-June live performance there — however proper now, she’s targeted on the neon inexperienced hue of each the tissue field throughout the seat from her and my laptop computer case. Outside, I spot a automotive of the identical colour passing by, then a person in a neon inexperienced development vest. Has this colour at all times been so distinguished, or are we solely simply now noticing it?

Everything about Charli’s sixth studio album, brat, launched June 7 to large essential acclaim and industrial success, began with its title and its cowl: the now ubiquitous lime inexperienced sq. with “brat” printed on it in barely blurred Arial font. Scrolling via her previous texts later, Charli searches for the precise day when she got here up with the quilt artwork. “OK, found it,” she says lastly, leaning in to share. “On March 16, 2022, I texted my friends, ‘I think it should just be one word on the album cover… Maybe it should be called brat.’ ” When she began writing the album’s music about six months later in Mexico City, she used the title as a jumping-off level for the angle and brazenness she needed every track to embody.

Inspired by a Nineties neon rave flyer and the title credit to Gregg Araki’s 2007 comedy, Smiley Face, Charli, 31, calls the album artwork’s colour “actually quite disgusting” and says she picked it as a result of it “spark[s] a really interesting conversation about [desirability]… It had to be really unfriendly and uncool.” Its surprising shade (it’s Pantone 3570-C, by the best way) and simply replicable format has spawned mass virality — even the LinkedIn enterprise bros, removed from her target market, are heralding it as “genius marketing.”

It’s onerous to overstate brat’s present chokehold on the tradition at giant. “Bestie got a parking ticket and it’s BRAT CODED,” one fan just lately tweeted, together with a photograph of a green-colored quotation. Hangers, earrings, lice shampoo, T-shirts, laundry detergent, olive oil, visitors indicators, some previous woman, grocery retailer chain Publix — if any hint of that attribute inexperienced is concerned, it will possibly, and can, be labeled “brat” and posted on-line. Major manufacturers like Amazon, Duolingo, Google and Netflix have embraced the hype, making “brat” memes of their very own. Vegan sausage firm Field Roast even created advertisements with lime inexperienced packaging that includes the phrase “bratwurst” in Arial font.

It’s the kind of craze any advertising guru would kill for — which is why it’s much more noteworthy that, based on Charli’s staff, the brat-uration of the web began naturally. In truth, Imogene Strauss, her longtime inventive director, has a extra old school clarification for the quilt artwork: She and Charli felt it was “loud” sufficient to face out in a document retailer.

“We did hundreds of versions of the cover,” Strauss explains. “We knew it was going to be green, but the conversations around the shade of green were weeks long… There’s so many versions that existed before the final. We analyzed every single element: where has this color been used before, what are its associations, who reacts to it and how.”

Charli xcx photographed July 4, 2024 at Loft Studios in London.

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Charlotte Hadden

As it caught on, Charli’s staff rushed to create a “brat generator” for followers to extra simply make their very own artwork impressed by the quilt. When Charli adopted up the hit album three days after its launch with a deluxe model — brat and it’s the identical however there’s three extra songs so it’s not, that includes… effectively, three extra songs — her staff constructed a second generator to imitate its black-and-white cowl artwork. When a brat wall mural in Brooklyn introduced the deluxe set’s launch one painted letter at a time, Charli livestreamed it. As her advertising and digital guru, Terry O’Connor, places it, a “big focus” of the marketing campaign was about “making and creating real-life, in-person moments” that may then be captured digitally, just like the phenomenon of followers posting selfies in entrance of the wall.

And that is simply the tip of the brat cultural iceberg. The 15-track, 41-minute album’s lyrics embrace a number of strains which have already infiltrated the web lexicon: “I’m so Julia” (a reference to actress Julia Fox), “You gon’ jump if A. G. made it” (a nod to brat govt producer A. G. Cook), “Bumpin’ that” (a chorus on brat’s opening and shutting tracks) and “Let’s work it out on the remix” (a line from Lorde’s “Girl, so confusing” remix). The track “Apple,” which Charli admits virtually didn’t even make the album, has spawned a TikTookay choreography craze. The posts concerning the document are mutating and evolving so quick that Atlantic Records A&R govt Brandon Davis says, “We joke that someone from the team always needs to be on night watch. Someone always needs to be awake, watching the internet, so we can just pop up and go.”

But the internet-fluent undertaking, its party-ready music and its discourse-dominating rollout belie its deep emotional core, which grapples with ego, womanhood and relationships. On the stripped-back “I might say something stupid,” Charli admits insecurity: “Guess I’m the mess and play the role.” With the bombastic “Von dutch,” she embraces conceitedness: “It’s OK to just admit you’re jealous of me.” Then, on the strobing “Girl, so confusing,” she questions friendships: “Sometimes I think you might hate me.” On the intimate “I think about it all the time,” she wrestles with advanced life selections: “Should I stop my birth control?/’Cause my career feels so small in the existential scheme of it all.” By the full-circle album nearer, “365,” she’s able to exit: “Should we do another key, should we do another line?”

Charli xcx photographed July 4, 2024 at Loft Studios in London.

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Charlotte Hadden

Overly analytical therapy-speak has infiltrated pop music lyricism, however listeners have latched onto the sincerity of Charli’s direct and “conversational” membership music. Modern discourse has fixated on the meanings of girlhood and womanhood, however brat has successfully stripped away the sugar coating, laying naked the jealousy, messiness and confusion inherent to many feminine relationships, even when it typically goes unstated.

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“I didn’t want any metaphors — like, at all,” Charli says, interrupted by the van’s abrupt cease and the motive force laying on the horn. “I wanted this record to feel like I was having a conversation with the listener in a true way. I could say that to you in the back of a cab on the way to a club. Like tonight? I want to dance with A. G.,” she says.

With that inventive conviction, Charli hasn’t simply made the album she at all times needed to: She has scored the largest success of her profession. But as Twiggy Rowley, a member of Charli’s administration staff since 2014, places it, brat’s affect is an “intangible groundswell” as a lot as it’s a quantifiable achievement. “She’s always operated three steps ahead. The only change is that people are now catching on.”


“It’s weird because I’ve been here before,” Charli says, peering out the window because the London streets whip previous. She’s reflecting on the industrial success of brat, which debuted at No. 3 on the Billboard 200, her highest place on the chart thus far. “But last time, I was here in a very different way.”

About a decade in the past, the Essex native born Charlotte Aitchison was poised to change into the following huge British pop star. After spending her teenagers slicing her enamel as a singer within the London rave scene, she signed with Atlantic/Asylum within the United Kingdom in 2009. In 2013, she hit No. 7 on the Billboard Hot 100 by the use of her visitor look on Icona Pop’s “I Love It,” and the next 12 months, she topped the chart because of her function on Iggy Azalea’s “Fancy.” Her personal 2014 single, “Boom Clap,” propelled by its synch within the John Green teen drama The Fault in Our Stars, reached No. 8 on the Hot 100.

Known for her fast pen — she co-wrote hits for Camila Cabello and Shawn Mendes (“Señorita”) and Selena Gomez (“Same Old Love”) — and signature smudged black liner and darkish mane of unruly waves, Charli appeared destined to proceed dominating the charts as each songwriter and artist. But she amassed cultural cachet as an artist far faster than industrial successes. Charli’s Angels — her cultlike fandom primarily comprising queer youngsters and partiers (or queer child partiers) — have lauded her as a pop innovator for years, one so cool that the mainstream simply didn’t get it. Each successive album discovered her hanging out in new sonic instructions — what she now calls “pendulum swings”— from Sucker’s pop-rock to How I’m Feeling Now’s pandemic hyperpop to, most just lately, 2022’s Crash, a pop princess idea album that she says is “what it would sound like if I sold out.”

While Charli maintained a considerably regular stream of essential popularity of her work throughout these years, generally even the critics didn’t perceive. An notorious Pitchfork evaluation panned her now broadly celebrated Vroom Vroom EP — produced by one among Charli’s mentors, the pioneering late artist SOPHIE, and at the moment thought of a foundational textual content of the subgenre often known as hyperpop — with a dismal 4.5 score upon its February 2016 launch. In 2019, the critic “publicly disavowed the nonsense I wrote about Vroom Vroom” in a tweet; when Pitchfork rescored a number of of its most controversial critiques in 2021, it bumped the EP to a 7.8.

Charli is used to this. At a screening for her high-concept “360” music video — that includes a veritable parade of “It” ladies from Chloë Sevigny to Fox — at Brain Dead Studios theater in West Hollywood, she proclaimed to the gang: “It’s hard being ahead, you know?” But regardless of her affect, Charli additionally tends to critique her previous work. Reflecting on a few of her early songs throughout our automotive journey, she calls them “just not very potent” variations of who she is as an artist; she considers 2014’s Sucker, as an illustration, “an attempt at what Olivia Rodrigo’s Sour was able to do much better.”

“My vision wasn’t fully realized,” Charli explains. “I made decisions that maybe were suggested to me but that I actually didn’t fully believe in. I was 19 years old. Whilst I think a lot of the songs that I was doing then were good songs, I wouldn’t necessarily have listened to them if it was another artist releasing them. I think I knew that at the time, but I also think I knew that that was OK. At that time, I was writing for a lot of other people, and I wanted to be doing that. I knew I probably wouldn’t have been in those [writing rooms] had ‘Boom Clap’ and those songs not happened the way they happened.”

Despite Crash being Charli’s open bid for mainstream approval, it turned out her “no compromise” document brat can be much more profitable commercially. (Crash debuted at No. 7 on the Billboard 200 and fell off the chart after three weeks.) “Now every single move is considered in depth. I think about every element of my artistry so in depth that I feel truly potent now,” she explains, fixing her hair — which, after a number of years of sporting a bob or numerous wigs, is again to its pure waved look, albeit with waist-long extensions.

“This is the most unabashedly, unapologetically Charli yet,” says Good World founder Brandon Creed, one other member of her administration staff. “It is a paradigm shift for her and, in some ways, for the industry. This is a high-charting album, but it’s not being led by just one hit single. There’s a number of songs going at once.”

Charli xcx photographed July 4, 2024 at Loft Studios in London.

Charli xcx photographed July 4, 2024 at Loft Studios in London.

Charlotte Hadden

Still, Charli says, “I don’t really do this for the charts,” rapidly couching her dismissal with a half-hearted “no offense.” On the brat monitor “Rewind” she does admit to considering it generally, singing, “I never used to think about Billboard/But now, I’ve started thinking about/Wondering about whether I think I deserve commercial success.”

“That line is actually referencing ‘Speed Drive’ [from the Barbie soundtrack],” Charli explains. “I wrote the song in 30 minutes. I didn’t think anything of [“Speed Drive”]… I really feel like [soundtrack executive producer Mark Ronson] requested me slightly late within the sport. He was like, ‘We need something for the driving scene. Do you want to do it?’ And I used to be like ‘Yeah, sure, whatever.’ ”

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When “Speed Drive” grew to become her largest hit in years, climbing to No. 73 on the Hot 100, she was in the course of writing brat. “I wrote ‘Rewind’ as a reference to the feeling of ‘Wait, now I’m having this big moment with “Speed Drive.” F–okay, that feels so random.’ ” Unfortunately, she says that as a result of track’s interpolations of The Teddy Bears’ “Cobrastyle” and Toni Basil’s “Mickey,” “there are now like 25 writers listed on it or something, which really sucks for us… though I don’t really make much money from publishing anyway.” (Billboard estimates that Charli earns between $500,000 and $900,000 in publishing royalties from her artist catalog yearly, relying on the character of her publishing deal. This estimate consists of each her publishing for her artist catalog and the songs she has written for others.)

Charli seems glad, if ambivalent, about her chart debut inroads with brat, however a few of her Angels took offense on her behalf, significantly along with her No. 2 debut within the United Kingdom. The identical week that brat dropped, Taylor Swift — the rumored topic of brat monitor “Sympathy is a knife” — stunned followers with two new variants of The Tortured Poets Department. Both have been particularly locked for under residents of the United Kingdom, the place many believed Charli had a shot at No. 1. The Angels decried Swift’s transfer, accusing her of “blocking” Charli. In response to these rumors, Creed merely tells Billboard: “We stayed on our course, and we’re thrilled with the results of the album.”


At the 12,500-capacity Wembley Arena, Charli’s van is ushered via a again entrance. As she’s led down a protracted, low-ceiling hallway and hurried into her designated inexperienced room, her stiletto-heeled boots clack loudly on the concrete flooring.

The hallway opens into the empty area, the place lighting techs are busily constructing the LED shows that may backdrop Sivan’s present a number of hours later. Again, brat inexperienced is seemingly in every single place, from worker uniforms to venue signage; because it occurs, it’s the colour of the world’s branding.

During the present, Sivan brings out Charli to carry out their 2018 duet, “1999.” This fall, they’ll co-headline the Sweat Tour of U.S. arenas. After being associates for a lot of their careers and sharing Creed as a supervisor, Charli says that it lastly “made sense” for them to tour collectively as a result of “dance-leaning” nature of brat and Sivan’s newest album, final fall’s Something To Give Each Other. Largely citing seating charts on Ticketmaster, some retailers have reported low ticket gross sales for the tour, which was introduced in mid-April, a number of weeks earlier than brat’s launch. But Jenna Adler, Charli’s agent at CAA, calls the rumor “fake news.”

“That’s just clickbait. It’s crazy,” she says. “My conviction is so strong about how well this tour is doing because I have the numbers and the numbers don’t lie.” (Adler declined to offer gross sales figures.) Charli additionally has 4 U.Okay. area dates lined up for late 2024.

Charli xcx photographed July 4, 2024 at Loft Studios in London.

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Charlotte Hadden

Live efficiency has already been important to brat’s rollout, beginning with Charli’s instantly legendary Boiler Room DJ set in February, which broke the document for the best variety of RSVPs within the firm’s historical past inside hours of its announcement. Flanked by brat govt producer Cook; her fiancé and co-writer, The 1975’s George Daniel; and producer Easyfun, she performed lots of brat’s songs for the primary time. But to maintain followers on their toes, all of the variations she performed have been remixes.

“The reason I love electronic music and clubs and DJs so much is that everything is endless. Everything can be repurposed, reimagined,” she says. “As a pop writer, I find that exciting. It was cool to use Boiler Room as a space to demonstrate that artists often make five different versions of a song and the song that is put out is not the only one.”

Playing with the thought of “inclusivity and exclusivity,” as she places it, is a core theme of brat. “I like the marketing of pop music more than I am interested in actual pop music,” Charli says. “I feel we’ve been residing on this world now for some time the place there’s this want to enchantment to the most individuals, to have the largest smile and be the nicest particular person with the widest enchantment. But want is cultivated by being slightly bit onerous to succeed in, slightly bit separate. That’s why folks need to wait in a queue at f–king Supreme, you realize what I imply?

“With brat, it was really interesting to just do things for the fan base and make that feel exclusive — but then once you’re in the club, it’s actually very inclusive,” she continues. “Actually, everyone can join the club. It’s just that everybody joins at slightly different times in slightly different ways — whether that be on my private Instagram posts, or the 400-person Boiler Room, or a random cinema screening of a new music video in L.A., or a text message from me.”

Charli xcx photographed July 4, 2024 at Loft Studios in London.

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Charlotte Hadden

Around brat’s launch, Charli adopted up her Boiler Room success with a quick underplay tour that stopped in London, New York, Chicago and Los Angeles. Held in much more intimate rooms than her upcoming area tour, every grew to become the most well liked ticket on the town. The present at New York’s Brooklyn Paramount specifically was an in-person reunion of Charli’s forged of characters talked about, featured or alluded to on brat. (She says the album’s frequent name-checking additionally embodies that inclusivity-and-exclusivity idea: When you be taught that “so Julia” refers to Fox, for instance, it unlocks a few of the that means of “360.”) Fox attended that evening, together with Cook; Daniel; The 1975’s Matty Healy; his fiancée, Gabbriette Bechtel; and the topic of “Girl, so confusing”: Lorde.

Like lots of brat’s songs, determining the topic of “Girl, so confusing” isn’t troublesome — which is why Charli reached out to Lorde forward of its launch. “I had to go through the process of telling her that this song is about her and her being OK with that first,” Charli explains. “I used to be making an attempt to satisfy up along with her for nearly a 12 months, and we stored having this bizarre, like, we have been [going to], then we wouldn’t. It spoke to the narrative of the track itself. In the top, it didn’t work out. Then the day earlier than the document got here out, I left her a voice notice. [Lorde] replied immediately and was like, ‘Oh, my God, I had no idea you felt this way. I’m so sorry.’ And then was like, ‘You know, maybe I should be on a version of the song.’ I didn’t even ask her. She introduced it up.

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“So much of this rollout was planned, but sometimes it was not,” she continues. “Lorde’s remix of ‘Girl, so confusing’ is a perfect example. That wasn’t planned. It took three days total.”

Within a number of days, Lorde lower her verse. She despatched it off to Charli after which headed out to attend the Brooklyn Paramount present. Lorde tells Billboard her first response to the track was a “two-part thing of both deep empathy for my friend and this feeling of ‘Man, I’ve been misunderstood, and I really want to make it right.’ ”

“It’s funny,” Charli says. “When I was listening to [Lorde’s] verse for the first time, I was backstage at the show. My hair stylist also does her hair. He had also just done her hair for the show, too, so he was just with her, and then he came to me and was like, ‘I’m so happy you guys are good.’ ”

“When I was writing this verse, I was saying these things to her for the first time,” Lorde says. “There was such a rawness and an immediacy to what I was saying. I love that we truly did work it out on the remix. There’s something very brat about that, something very meta and modern. Only Charli could make that happen. She had opened up a channel between us, and it made me say things that I had never said. I was articulating things I’d never said or maybe even things I’ve never even heard said. This whole thing has been such a huge honor.”


Every week after the Sivan present, Charli is at her London dwelling, getting her hair and make-up achieved for her Billboard cowl shoot. With an 8 a.m. name time for glam and plans to later attend a promotional occasion in Northern England till late into the evening, it’s evident that brat’s omnipresence is just not as a result of sheer luck and even simply nice songs: It’s additionally largely the results of a relentless schedule of selling and promotion by Charli and her staff.

Sam Pringle, one other co-manager of Charli’s since 2014, credit her because the mastermind behind all of it. He says Charli despatched the staff “a 20-page PDF breaking down every element of brat in full” in January at the beginning kicked off. “I should have known then that this was going to be a campaign like no other.”

Since then, Charli admits she has had virtually no downtime, particularly not after the album launch. She did have a few days of restoration after her late-night DJ set on the Glastonbury Festival the weekend earlier than her Billboard shoot, however “that’s about it,” she says, shrugging. “I feel good, but I’m overwhelmed as well. But also, I just love the music that I’ve made so much, which is not always the case… Luckily, I want to be doing all of this.”

Charli xcx photographed July 4, 2024 at Loft Studios in London.

Charli xcx photographed July 4, 2024 at Loft Studios in London. Balenciaga high, skirt and boots.

Charlotte Hadden

Still, within the zenith of so-called “brat summer,” as followers say, Charli says she has extra deliberate. The wall in Brooklyn that she used to tease out the deluxe launch was just lately taken down, which followers learn as the top of the brat period. But Charli assuaged these fears on social media: “brat summer is only just beginning :).”

When requested if extra remixes are but to return, she solutions, “Yes,” however coyly declines to supply particulars. She additionally says she’s planning to go to Poland for 3 weeks in August “to write a film there with…” Then she hesitates, catching herself earlier than she provides an excessive amount of away. “Well, I don’t really know if I should say because I also don’t know if we’re going to do it. We might actually just go to Poland and not do that, but that is the idea.”

She has by no means written a script earlier than, however as a longtime cinephile, she’s excited to attempt. Why Poland? “Because it’s going to take place in Poland. We would write it and shoot it at the same time, kind of like making an album. One of the guys is the director — he works that way all the time.”

Long time period, she’s much less positive about the place her musical profession will go subsequent. “I saw this tweet the other day that was like, ‘Does anyone think that this is Charli’s last album?’… Then I was like, ‘Actually, that could be cool if I didn’t really make music anymore after this,’ ” she admits. “I’m definitely thinking about it because I really want to act.” Then she pauses. “I don’t know. I’m just so deep in this, I can’t see outside of brat, but it’s funny. I kind of want to make a Lou Reed record, to be honest. That would definitely be a pretty big swing.”

And for that cause, it may very well be the right Charli transfer. The remainder of the world may solely simply now be catching as much as her, however “Charli’s been doing this,” as Lorde says. “She’s been Charli this whole time. She’s just put one foot in front of the other. Learned something from every project. Michelangelo apparently once said, ‘I’m just going to carve away all that is not David,’ and I feel that that’s what we are getting to witness in real time: Charli saying to herself, ‘I’m going to carve away all that is not Charli.’ It’s very, very big and special, powerful, fun, sick work that she does.”

Charli xcx Billboard Magazine Cover July 20, 2024

This story will seem within the July 20, 2024, concern of Billboard.

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