Testament is currently striking an exciting balance between their iconic past and contemporary influences. In an engaging conversation with Full Metal Jackie during her weekend radio show, lead vocalist Chuck Billy shared that fans can expect a fresh take on their sound. He emphasized, “I’m not going to say you’re going to hear a 1980s Testament. I would have to say you’re going to hear a 1980s Modern Testament. Because it really is.” This statement hints at a thrilling evolution, promising longtime fans a blend of nostalgia and modernity.

Billy also expressed his enthusiasm for the contributions of the band’s new drummer, Chris Dovas, who has played a pivotal role in co-writing much of their upcoming album alongside veteran guitarist Eric Peterson. “I think those two spent the most time as a writing team than we’ve ever had in the past. And the songs are really, really good and strong,” he added. The excitement surrounding the influence of a new generation of metal on their sound is palpable, with Chris bringing a significant creative force to their work.

In addition to balancing their musical evolution, Testament is currently engaged in a reissue cycle, having regained the rights to their first six albums from Atlantic Records. During this insightful exchange, Billy and Jackie explored the history of the iconic Practice What You Preach album, which is featured in their most recent reissue.

The conversation also touched on the impact of the grunge era on Testament’s trajectory, alongside their collaboration with the new Brazen Testament coffee brand. This multifaceted discussion reveals how the band is not only revisiting their past but also embracing new opportunities for growth and collaboration.

Check out more of the enlightening chat below.

It’s Full Metal Jackie here, and I’m thrilled to have the legendary Chuck Billy of Testament joining us to delve into the significance of Practice What You Preach. As the band prepares to celebrate this pivotal album with a new reissue, Chuck, can you share your reflections on how this album marked a transformative period for you? What creative sparks ignited such a remarkable step forward in your songwriting?

Reflecting on their early years, Chuck recalls, “Those first four records, we did a record every year, went on tour, wrote a record, recorded, went on tour.” By the time they reached the third album, Practice What You Preach, Atlantic Records had taken a more active role in their musical journey as they transitioned from Megaforce to Atlantic. “At that time, we never had an A&R person and radio people and video people,” he shared, noting the industry’s shift that began to influence their creative process.

This newfound dynamic significantly altered their approach. Previously, they were simply focused on writing songs and touring, but now they were faced with the reality that their music could potentially reach a broader audience through radio play. “Wow, okay, you mean actually our metal can be played on the radio? Wow, okay, well, what do you need from us?” This revelation led them to create songs that were more accessible to mainstream listeners, shifting the way they were presented as a metal band.

Notably, Practice What You Preach featured the band’s first ballad, humorously titled “The Ballad,” reflecting their creative experimentation during this transformative time. “Things actually started moving quick for us, and the power of radio took us to another level as far as our ticket sales and record sales,” Chuck explained, highlighting the rapid changes that marked this chapter in their evolution.

Discover Testament’s Musical Journey with “Practice What You Preach”

Chuck, reflecting on the recording of Practice What You Preach in the 80s, how do you perceive the evolution of studio technology? Would you have preferred to utilize today’s advanced options back then, or do you cherish the traditional recording techniques of that era?

A little bit of both, Chuck admits. He explains that this particular record was notable for being the first one they recorded live, with all members playing together except for the vocals. “You had to nail it one take or start over again,” he recalls, indicating the pressure and excitement of capturing their raw energy in the studio. The mixing process was also different, involving large sound consoles where each musician had a specific role in creating the final product, primarily focused on vinyl production.

Chuck reminisces about the meticulousness required during those sessions: “We would make the mix, play it back on the 2-inch, cut a vinyl, listen to it go up, and then think, ‘Huh? This isn’t right. We need to do it again.’” While he appreciates the nostalgia of that era, he acknowledges that the process was demanding and not necessarily something he would want to return to. “It took a lot,” he reflects, recognizing the challenges they faced as a young band navigating the complexities of recording.

As time went on, Chuck notes that they matured as musicians, gaining a clearer understanding of their sound and vision. However, he admits that if given the chance, they might have approached things differently in pursuit of a bigger sound. Eventually, they recognized the importance of capturing the essence of their music while embracing the advancements in technology that allow them to remaster their classic tracks, giving them a fresh perspective.

Now that they have regained control over their first six Atlantic records, Chuck sees an exciting opportunity to enhance their legacy. “We have the option to make it better. So that’s a good thing,” he concludes, highlighting the potential for growth and improvement in their music.

Chuck, the upcoming Testament reissue is complemented by a new lyric video for “Time Is Coming.” Why do you think this song resonates now, and do you believe it has a timeless quality?

Indeed, Chuck believes that the song’s relevance has been amplified in light of recent political climates. “When we were listening after we got the remasters back, that song just kind of jumped out, especially with what’s going on,” he explained. The lyrics address crucial societal issues that resonate with listeners today, making it a fitting choice for release. “The time’s coming. It’s a very crucial part for Americans who’s elected in or not elected in and what happens to all of us having to live with what happens,” he emphasizes, recognizing the song’s significance in the current landscape.

Chuck expresses that the decision to feature this particular track stemmed from a deeper understanding of its messages after revisiting the remastered tracks. “Wow, this kind of says it all. The Time Is Coming” is an anthem that reflects the urgency of the present moment.

Experience Testament’s Legacy with “Time Is Coming”

Chuck Billy of Testament is here with us, discussing the reissue of Practice What You Preach. Outside of the title track, many songs from the album have been sidelined in your live performances. Have these reissues prompted you to reconsider your live setlists? Are there specific tracks you’re eager to reintroduce?

Absolutely. With these reissues underway, Chuck is enthusiastic about the possibilities ahead. “Now that we are doing these reissues, as we get control of them, next year we’ll get Souls of Black and then the next one after that,” he reveals. Currently, the band is wrapping up a tour celebrating The Legacy and New Order records, which has given them an opportunity to play classic tracks from those albums.

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Looking forward, Chuck expresses a desire to create a special tour focused solely on Practice What You Preach songs. “Let’s just play those songs, tell stories of the writing process, and what the songs mean,” he suggests. This intimate approach to their performances has resonated with fans in the past, providing them with insights into the songs and connecting them to the band’s history.

Chuck reflects on the positive feedback they received from fans during previous tours, emphasizing how much they appreciated learning about the songs’ meanings and the band’s journey. “It made for an interesting show, for the fans and for us as well,” he adds, hinting at the excitement surrounding their plans for the future.

As the Practice reissue approaches, Chuck is optimistic about the potential for an engaging tour experience that celebrates their rich musical legacy.

Chuck, both Practice What You Preach and Souls of Black were pivotal releases before the rise of grunge in the 90s. How did this era affect metal bands, including Testament? Were you a fan of some grunge music, and did it influence your approach during that time?

Absolutely, Chuck acknowledges. He enjoyed bands like Alice in Chains and Soundgarden, but the arrival of grunge significantly impacted metal’s momentum during the 90s. “There’s people that say it killed metal. I don’t know if it killed metal. I just think some bands, and I can only speak for us, but it killed our momentum,” he reflects, sharing how their exposure began to wane as grunge took center stage.

During the grunge era, Testament enjoyed significant radio play, especially during drive-time traffic, which had previously elevated their visibility. However, as the landscape shifted, they had to adapt. “The momentum slowed down, and we had to shift gears to kind of go back to our roots,” Chuck explains, highlighting their decision to focus on heavier, more aggressive music during this transitional period.

This strategic pivot enabled them to stay true to their metal roots. “Get back to what we know, what we love and just stick with that,” Chuck asserts, recognizing the importance of maintaining their integrity as musicians. As a result, they earned the appreciation of fans who valued their authenticity and commitment to their sound.

Despite the challenges posed by the changing musical climate, Chuck reflects on this period as a time of growth and perseverance. “It was a very weird time for us because Alex [Skolnick] was leaving the band that following year, and Louie [Clemente] left the band,” he recalls, illustrating the uncertainties they faced as a band. Nevertheless, they emerged from this tumultuous period with a renewed sense of purpose and creativity.

Before we wrap up, Chuck, I know Testament has been working on new music lately, and I hear Floor Jansen has collaborated on a track. What inspired you to reach out to her for this new song, and can you share updates on your upcoming album?

Chuck is excited to report that the new record is nearly finished, with only three songs left for him to record vocals. “Music’s done, drums, everything’s done,” he confirms. The addition of drummer Chris Dovas has brought a fresh energy to the writing process, resulting in strong new material that reflects the band’s evolution.

Chuck describes a particular song that Alex and Eric have been working on, initially kept under wraps. “It’s a really good, slow, emotional song,” he shares, drawing comparisons to their classic tracks like “Return to Serenity.” The decision to feature a female vocalist on this song felt natural, and Chuck immediately thought of Floor Jansen, whose powerful voice would complement the track beautifully.

After reaching out to her, Chuck was thrilled when she agreed to participate. “Of course, she’s like, ‘Yes, let’s send it to me and I’ll definitely participate,’” he recalls. The record promises to showcase a diverse range of sounds, from fast-paced tracks to mid-tempo and slower songs, incorporating various vocal styles.

Chuck believes that this new album will surprise listeners with its modern influences while staying true to their legacy. “You’re going to hear it and go, ‘That doesn’t sound like a band that’s been around 38 years going on 40 years,’” he enthuses, illustrating the band’s commitment to innovation and creativity.

With Chris Dovas contributing significantly to the writing and recording process, Chuck expresses gratitude for the fresh perspectives he brings. “He’s very helpful in the studio with us, and he’s a great guy,” Chuck remarks, highlighting the positive energy within the band as they prepare for an exciting year ahead.

Chuck Billy of Testament is with us, and I’m thrilled to share that we have a new coffee called Brazen Coffee, created in collaboration with Concept Cafes. Chuck, are you a coffee enthusiast? How did this collaboration come to fruition?

Interestingly, Chuck wasn’t a coffee drinker in the past, but over the last decade, he has developed a strong appreciation for it. “I drink more coffee now on the road than anything else,” he admits, revealing how coffee has become an essential part of his touring routine.

The collaboration with Concept Cafes emerged after he noticed the company producing coffees for various bands, including Cannibal Corpse. Intrigued by the artwork and packaging, Chuck felt compelled to explore the opportunity further. “After talking with them, I learned that a lot of the artists actually got to really add their input and do a lot of tasting,” he explains, highlighting the collaborative nature of the process.

Chuck and the band sampled numerous coffee beans and roasts from around the world, ultimately selecting a darker roast with a hint of cocoa that they truly enjoyed. “It’s really flavorful,” he notes, expressing pride in the final product.

The limited edition tins featuring eye-catching artwork are set to be available through Concept Cafes. “There’s snakes and fire,” he describes with enthusiasm, showcasing the metal aesthetic that fans can expect. “I mean, what more do you need?” Chuck adds, emphasizing the unique nature of this collaboration.

He shares that the band has embraced their new coffee enthusiast lifestyle, even investing in a coffee maker and grinder for their dressing room. “We’re enjoying it,” he concludes, eager for fans to experience the same quality brew they cherish on the road.

Our heartfelt thanks to Chuck Billy of Testament for this engaging interview. Fans can order the Practice What You Preach reissue through the Nuclear Blast website, while Brazen Coffee is available via Concept Cafes. Stay updated with Testament by visiting their website and following them on Facebook, X, Instagram, and Spotify. To find out where to catch Full Metal Jackie’s weekend radio show, check here.