[Editor’s Note: The following contains spoilers for Ghosts Season 4, Episode 3]

Just days following the premiere of Ghosts Season 4 Episode 1 titled “Patience,” solid members Brandon Scott Jones, Román Zaragoza, Sheila Carrasco, and Rose McIver took heart stage at New York Comic Con 2024. In this partaking session, they mentioned varied elements, together with the Halloween-themed episode, McIver’s spectacular directorial debut within the sequence, and rather more. The group additionally visited Collider’s interview studio, the place Perri Nemiroff delved deeper into the inventive nuances of “Halloween 4: The Witch” and what followers ought to anticipate because the season unfolds.

Ghosts continues to captivate its viewers with the much-anticipated Season 4 airing on CBS and Paramount+. Following the thrilling cliffhanger of the Season 3 finale final May, Sam (McIver) and Jay (Utkarsh Ambudkar) Arondekar’s ghostly bed-and-breakfast is poised for much more chaos within the fourth season. With the addition of Dean Norris as Sam’s father and Mary Holland portraying the Puritan ghost Patience, the dynamic within the Woodstone Mansion is about to get much more fascinating. With enterprise booming, a flurry of latest spirits arriving, and surprising twists on the horizon, will the Arondekars be pushed to their limits?

During their insightful interview, Jones, Zaragoza, Carrasco, and McIver explored quite a few themes, together with the evolving relationship between Nigel and Isaac, Sass’s journey in the direction of embracing his heartthrob persona, and the anticipated second when Jay lastly encounters the ghosts this season. For extra in-depth insights, view our interview with the solid within the video participant above or learn the whole dialog within the transcript offered beneath.

Mary Holland’s Stellar Portrayal of Patience Shines Bright

“She is a genius.”

PERRI NEMIROFF: I’ve to ask you all about working with Mary [Holland]. Do you bear in mind the very first second on set when she mentioned or did one thing that made you cease and go, “My God, you are pitch-perfect for Patience?”

BRANDON SCOTT JONES: There’s an element the place I’ve to mimic the way in which she pronounces the title Patience. We each wanted to imitate it, however we hadn’t filmed the scene the place we truly heard her say it but; she hadn’t began taking pictures it. So, I texted her to ask if she might ship me a voice observe of her doing the Patience factor. Just listening to that, I used to be ecstatic and could not wait. We performed it for one another, and it was a pleasant second.

ROMÁN ZARAGOZA: I keep in mind that second vividly; it was her delivering the double “Patience.” I saved questioning how anybody might painting this character authentically. Reading these two phrases on the web page appeared daunting, however when Mary carried out them, I assumed, “She is a genius.” Shooting that scene was extremely enjoyable, and collaborating together with her was an unforgettable expertise.

JONES: I ought to undoubtedly make that my ringtone.

I used to be going to say, I hope you saved the voice observe!

JONES: I imagine I nonetheless have it. I’ll must dig it up. It’s actually incredible.

Who does the very best “Patience”?

SHEILA CARRASCO: Yours is fairly good.

ZARAGOZA: Mary Holland, no doubt, does the very best.

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I used to be genuinely delighted the primary time I heard her say it. It was completely good. I’m curious, although, how is that captured within the script? Are there any descriptors included?

JONES: The parentheses. A variety of her parentheticals had been wild, comma-heavy. [Laughs] Mary would say, “Alright, I can handle this!” It’s exceptional. It was italicized within the script, and I assumed, “Oh, I wonder how this will turn out?”

ZARAGOZA: I like when it is a cheerful, like, “Patience, Patience.” It’s like, “Oh, it can be a positive thing too.”

The Evolution of Nigel and Isaac’s Relationship in ‘Ghosts’ Season 4

“I think he’s starting to realize, ‘Oh my gosh, maybe I need to be a better person.'”

Let’s delve into character specifics. Brandon, let’s begin with you. Things did not work out with Nigel, and in Episode 2, he strikes out. At that second, what’s Isaac’s mindset relating to their relationship? Is he utterly uninterested, or has he realized one thing that alters his perspective on what he needs in a relationship?

JONES: That’s a superb query. Currently, Isaac is grappling with the unhappiness of shedding this essential relationship, processing it in the one means he is aware of how—by determining the way it impacts him personally.

ROSE MCIVER: And he’s undoubtedly taking it out on these round him. [Laughs]

JONES: Absolutely, he’s feeling determined proper now. He feels immense guilt and believes he has quite a bit to atone for relating to the destructive actions he’s taken in his previous life. Just as he talked about in Episode 1, he goes by a transformative expertise, returns from the dust, and in the end asks Nigel to maneuver out. Yet, for a fleeting second, he instinctively tries to make issues proper for himself. I imagine he’s beginning to perceive, “Oh my gosh, maybe I need to become a better person,” but it surely’s a battle for him. When he begins to vary for the higher, he’s so self-aware and enthusiastic about it. So, whereas he’s on this journey of self-improvement, it’s essential to keep in mind that resulting from his distinctive circumstances, it’d take him longer than a typical individual.

I’ve many questions on how he defines being an excellent individual, and I assume we’ll discover this because the season progresses.

JONES: For him, it begins with being barely much less self-centered. That’s the start line.

Baby steps. It’ll occur at his personal tempo.

ZARAGOZA: It’s both child steps or taking two steps again.

That appears to be the suitable math.

The End of the Honeymoon Phase for Flower and Thorfinn

Sheila, let’s discuss Flower now as a result of within the new season, she is solely with Thor. How does this relationship outline her journey in Season 4?

CARRASCO: Flower and Thorfinn have definitely been by quite a bit collectively, and their honeymoon part is coming to an finish. They’ve encountered some very relatable challenges typical in relationships—like her falling right into a nicely and going lacking, and then navigating a throuple state of affairs with a ghost by cholera. Now, they’re at a pivotal second: “What’s next? How can we support one another?” Both characters are set to face vital challenges this season, digging deep into their previous traumas and experiences. They will probably be there for one another all through this journey.

I really feel for Betsy [Sodaro]. She received the boot from the throuple!

CARRASCO: You know what? Nancy was an amazing throuplemate. She was actually easy-going.

MCIVER: I believe Nancy’s doing simply tremendous. Nancy takes care of Nancy.

CARRASCO: Absolutely.

I skilled the Creep LA occasion together with her. It was phenomenal!

ZARAGOZA: We heard about that! Asher [Grodman] talked about it.

She infused